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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Make Money Blogging-  So YOU are the reason I get this high bounce rates lately!! :twisted:

@Mirjam-  Visitors that click on ppc or aff. links are not counted as bounced, so unfortunately, your theory is incorrect. Unless I don&#039;t get something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Make Money Blogging-  So YOU are the reason I get this high bounce rates lately!! <img src='http://www.net-entrepreneur.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Mirjam-  Visitors that click on ppc or aff. links are not counted as bounced, so unfortunately, your theory is incorrect. Unless I don&#8217;t get something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mirjam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mirjam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to add something to the &quot;high bounce rate being alarming&quot;. A high bounce rate isn´t necesarily bad, depending on what you are after. 

If you are generating organic traffic to come to your blog and they arrive, read the first page and then leave to either your affiliate link or ppc ... it really isn´t all that bad ;)

Hell, it is better than having them leave through the backbutton!

&lt;em&gt;Mirjam&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/memyselfandiblog/RuXy/~3/263880993/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My own Belief System Made it Impossible to Become Rich&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to add something to the &#8220;high bounce rate being alarming&#8221;. A high bounce rate isn´t necesarily bad, depending on what you are after. </p>
<p>If you are generating organic traffic to come to your blog and they arrive, read the first page and then leave to either your affiliate link or ppc &#8230; it really isn´t all that bad <img src='http://www.net-entrepreneur.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hell, it is better than having them leave through the backbutton!</p>
<p><em>Mirjam&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/memyselfandiblog/RuXy/~3/263880993/' rel="nofollow">My own Belief System Made it Impossible to Become Rich</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Make Money Blogging</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make Money Blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice a great fluctuation in the bouce rate between sites and from the different traffic sources. I surf bounce around alot, sometimes i&#039;ll go back to a site 3 or 4 times before actuially getting down to reading what I went there for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice a great fluctuation in the bouce rate between sites and from the different traffic sources. I surf bounce around alot, sometimes i&#8217;ll go back to a site 3 or 4 times before actuially getting down to reading what I went there for.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Avinash,

Great to see you here. 

I know. Google Benchmarking is a great tool, and I was just mentioning it in my previous post. 

Unfortunately, you can&#039;t be sure whether the sites you are compared to are also blogs and that they are of the same layout. Moreover, I am pretty sure they aren&#039;t. Google says it divides sites into three categories for benchmarking: small, medium and large. That way you are comparing yourself to similarly sized sites, but not similarly designed. But, otherwise it is great to see where do you stand in comparison on other parameters as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Avinash,</p>
<p>Great to see you here. </p>
<p>I know. Google Benchmarking is a great tool, and I was just mentioning it in my previous post. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, you can&#8217;t be sure whether the sites you are compared to are also blogs and that they are of the same layout. Moreover, I am pretty sure they aren&#8217;t. Google says it divides sites into three categories for benchmarking: small, medium and large. That way you are comparing yourself to similarly sized sites, but not similarly designed. But, otherwise it is great to see where do you stand in comparison on other parameters as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Avinash Kaushik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avinash Kaushik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex: You are absolutely right that blogs are a particular exception to the standard bounce rate rules becuase people will just read your latest (or most relevant) post and then bail (like me here :).

But the nice things now is Google Analytics provides industry benchmarking, which means that you can use GA to compare your bounce rate to other comparable sites. This means you can come up with and use the most relevant benchmark for yourself.

-Avinash.

PS: Here is my own, old, post on bounce rate with lots of examples from different web analytics tools about how to use this valuable metric:

http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/2007/08/standard-metrics-revisited-3-bounce-rate.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex: You are absolutely right that blogs are a particular exception to the standard bounce rate rules becuase people will just read your latest (or most relevant) post and then bail (like me here <img src='http://www.net-entrepreneur.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>But the nice things now is Google Analytics provides industry benchmarking, which means that you can use GA to compare your bounce rate to other comparable sites. This means you can come up with and use the most relevant benchmark for yourself.</p>
<p>-Avinash.</p>
<p>PS: Here is my own, old, post on bounce rate with lots of examples from different web analytics tools about how to use this valuable metric:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/2007/08/standard-metrics-revisited-3-bounce-rate.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/2007/08/standard-metrics-revisited-3-bounce-rate.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mirjam!

I&#039;ve seen your follow-up now. I&#039;m glad you&#039;ve seen the light..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mirjam!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen your follow-up now. I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve seen the light..</p>
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		<title>By: Mirjam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mirjam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alex!
I already did a follow up on my initial post that you mentioned, coming to the same conclusion you are stating in your post here :D 

I think it is just another static to keep in mind, but especially when having a new blog, and using a way to generate traffic which is known to cause high bounce rate since most people that enter are there because of getting more drops, bounce rate is normal to be higher. 

Whether it is ok to have that high of a bounce rate, well not really, but it is just another thing to keep in mind, without fretting about it too much. 

Of course there are many things to do in order to lower it and the ways you mention do work, like you however I don´t want to force my bouncerate down at the cost of my visitor (making them go to the full article with a read more tag) but instead want to focus on better content, making the blog stickier through other ways. 

Another great post!

&lt;em&gt;Mirjam&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/memyselfandiblog/RuXy/~3/259612723/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Bounce You Bounce - the Follow Up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alex!<br />
I already did a follow up on my initial post that you mentioned, coming to the same conclusion you are stating in your post here <img src='http://www.net-entrepreneur.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I think it is just another static to keep in mind, but especially when having a new blog, and using a way to generate traffic which is known to cause high bounce rate since most people that enter are there because of getting more drops, bounce rate is normal to be higher. </p>
<p>Whether it is ok to have that high of a bounce rate, well not really, but it is just another thing to keep in mind, without fretting about it too much. </p>
<p>Of course there are many things to do in order to lower it and the ways you mention do work, like you however I don´t want to force my bouncerate down at the cost of my visitor (making them go to the full article with a read more tag) but instead want to focus on better content, making the blog stickier through other ways. </p>
<p>Another great post!</p>
<p><em>Mirjam&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/memyselfandiblog/RuXy/~3/259612723/' rel="nofollow">I Bounce You Bounce &#8211; the Follow Up</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan,

75% BR might be disturbing only when I think how many people are continuing to read my older posts, since 75% means that not so many do so. 

But, considering my blog&#039;s authority and age, this is going to build up with time. I&#039;ve already seen the power of making it easy for the reader to access my older posts by including the &quot;featured articles&quot; in my header, and installing the cool archives plugin. 

Therefore it doesn&#039;t raise alarm when I look at the 75%, but only reminds me that currently it is the way things are, and gives me an alternative to drastically change everything or ease things more naturally towards lower BR.

Thanks for the recommendation. Will check it out sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan,</p>
<p>75% BR might be disturbing only when I think how many people are continuing to read my older posts, since 75% means that not so many do so. </p>
<p>But, considering my blog&#8217;s authority and age, this is going to build up with time. I&#8217;ve already seen the power of making it easy for the reader to access my older posts by including the &#8220;featured articles&#8221; in my header, and installing the cool archives plugin. </p>
<p>Therefore it doesn&#8217;t raise alarm when I look at the 75%, but only reminds me that currently it is the way things are, and gives me an alternative to drastically change everything or ease things more naturally towards lower BR.</p>
<p>Thanks for the recommendation. Will check it out sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That came across way more snooty than I meant it to.  What I meant to say is that a good bounce rate isn&#039;t actually that hard to achieve.  Static sites don&#039;t really have an advantage over blogs, as most of them don&#039;t have nearly the amount of content on them.  The only way to achieve a great bounce rate is to learn to write outstanding headlines, and openings.  Your opening needs to be a clincher that gets people to read on, and whether you agree or not a &lt;!-- more --&gt; tag definitely helps.  Most people don&#039;t mind clicking through, and it actually pleases some readers because they don&#039;t have to scroll through an entire article that they don&#039;t want to read.  They can just move on to something that&#039;s more interesting to them.

Internal linking, good use of images, and short concise articles + combined with ability to write good headlines, and a good clincher = Awesome Bounce Rate!

I know that there isn&#039;t a single blogger out there that wants to admit that they write bad headlines, but waaaaaaay over 90% of the blogs I visit have terrible and boring headlines.  

I recommend a book called &quot;Words That Sell&quot;.  It&#039;s increased a lot of my statistics, and it&#039;s made me more money!

&lt;em&gt;Bryan Clark&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://onemansgoal.com/342/why-you-want-to-stumble/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why You Want to Stumble&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That came across way more snooty than I meant it to.  What I meant to say is that a good bounce rate isn&#8217;t actually that hard to achieve.  Static sites don&#8217;t really have an advantage over blogs, as most of them don&#8217;t have nearly the amount of content on them.  The only way to achieve a great bounce rate is to learn to write outstanding headlines, and openings.  Your opening needs to be a clincher that gets people to read on, and whether you agree or not a <!-- more --> tag definitely helps.  Most people don&#8217;t mind clicking through, and it actually pleases some readers because they don&#8217;t have to scroll through an entire article that they don&#8217;t want to read.  They can just move on to something that&#8217;s more interesting to them.</p>
<p>Internal linking, good use of images, and short concise articles + combined with ability to write good headlines, and a good clincher = Awesome Bounce Rate!</p>
<p>I know that there isn&#8217;t a single blogger out there that wants to admit that they write bad headlines, but waaaaaaay over 90% of the blogs I visit have terrible and boring headlines.  </p>
<p>I recommend a book called &#8220;Words That Sell&#8221;.  It&#8217;s increased a lot of my statistics, and it&#8217;s made me more money!</p>
<p><em>Bryan Clark&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://onemansgoal.com/342/why-you-want-to-stumble/' rel="nofollow">Why You Want to Stumble</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, however I must disagree.  A good blog can easily generate a bounce rate between 40-50%.  Your bounce rate of 75% is ALARMINGLY high.

&lt;em&gt;Bryan Clark&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://onemansgoal.com/342/why-you-want-to-stumble/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why You Want to Stumble&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, however I must disagree.  A good blog can easily generate a bounce rate between 40-50%.  Your bounce rate of 75% is ALARMINGLY high.</p>
<p><em>Bryan Clark&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://onemansgoal.com/342/why-you-want-to-stumble/' rel="nofollow">Why You Want to Stumble</a></em></p>
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